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Old 04-13-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick™ View Post
charlesr1958 can I ask you what connection you have to Mr. Borneman seeing as he copied you several supposed confidential emails that he sent me.
I have always said right up front that I consider Eric to be an online friend. He also has helped me understand the reefs that I am privelaged to have daily access to. He also is always more than happy to take the time to help me in any number of projects that I undertake on a hobby level. Were he a "stranger" to me, I would most likely not have been as vocal, and just put this sort of thread down to yet another gossip fest or arguement and went about my merry way. I would like to appear so noble as to say that I would have risen to the defense of anyone under such an attack, but that would not have been true a few weeks ago. But since I have been vocal about "fairness", I will have to hold myself to that standard for anyone under such an attack, regardless of who they are, or the accusation being made. It is afterall, the basis of our legal system and something I defended personaly for twenty years. This specific incidence has only raised my own awareness of this subject and has taught me that I have a bit more work to do on myself as well. For others, all I can do is point out what should be the standard we all should strive for and be held to, including myself. In our society, culture, history and religions, all those sayings regarding justice and "fair play" are the reminders to us when we begin to allow our basic, selfish, egotiscal human natures to get the better of us.

To thy own self be true - Those that live in glass houses...- Innocent, until proven guilty - Casting the first stones - and a few hundred others. All very high standards to aim for, but when we fail to try, its really not a pretty sight. That and it is only common sense that when all the facts are not present, any discussion is pretty much useless and downright harmfull to all involved in the attempt.
Honestly, what has any of this really done? I can not think of one good thing to have come of it, all I see is a bunch of accusations, feelings and egos hurt, things said that normaly would not ever have been said, and just an all around really bad taste left in ones mouth, most likely from the rotten egg dripping down off of our faces.
I've sat here for the last five minutes trying to think of what else that I can say to contribute but am at a total loss. I've said my peace a great many times and yet allow myself to be drawn back into it again and again out of sheer frustration. (sprinkled with some ego no doubt as well). As such, having said my peace yet again. I can only shut up now and hope this thread goes the way of all other similiar ones. Ya all have a good weekend.

Chuck
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