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Originally Posted by phil5613

All of the "it was stored in a commercial building and was cultured for profit" is really condemning but can someone tell me how much profit was made? Or again are we assuming there was profit made?

I don't think any profit was made. There were too many coral deaths for a profit. Nor do I think that was even a major goal. However, profit could have been made because Eric never gave any money to the people who were taking care of the corals. One thing is known, Reef Savers trieds to send the corals back to the Sanctuary and Eric tried to stop that. Why?

QUOTE IS TAKEN FROM A RDO POST.....I didnt want to get involved in this. Steven and Charles....and many others, you were not there, your information is not accurate.....probably because you only have one side of the story. Your dates are wrong, your understanding of the "free" care that was administered to the corals is wrong, and there is still so much more that i am learning because there was a whole bunch of DISHONESTY!!! we'll just leave it at that. no, lets go a little further since you two dont seem to mind.

FYI the corals were taken care of under my expert care, and i promise, that i grow coral with the best of them. After nine to ten months of loving care, i grew tired of unfulfilled promises and shady dealings and i had to do something to support my wife and soon to be born child. Running a facility of this size is tremendously expensive and up until that point, i had not recieved ANYTHING.....except more instructions on what I was supposed to do The burden of care was then shifted solely on to Mr. Borneman for the final few months. I went to Indonesia for business but i had to return because i was OBLIGATED to do so. I cut my trip short, to come back and deal with a wicked mess that someone else left, i started dialogue with the Keys management.I shipped approx. 35 large boxes of "live" coral back to the Keys, before Borneman took me to court under a erroneous accusation that was immediately thrown out.

I didnt want to get into this, but i am NOT willing to allow two people who dont know crap from shinola come on here and state second hand information from someone who wont say it himself. It doesnt matter anyway, i got screwed, and i let this go, fair dinkum. This whole thread is tired, and just needs to fizzle into oblivion. The project is over with, the corals have been returned to their rightful owners(willingly) and all parties involved are OVER this.
Let it go.

Reef Savers Inc.

What was truly lost from this? Corals that were destined to be uprooted or destroyed? Does anyone really believe these corals were taken just to be destroyed by negligence? Do I care about corals and this hobby you betcha. But in the grand scheme I bet the members on this board alone have killed more corals in the learning process of this hobby in total then what were lost here. Yet we don’t have a "Save the reef we hate ourselves" post here condemning all of us for destroying the very fabric/foundation of this hobby.

There were corals that were native Caribbean corals that the Navy had to store due to law before they could continue with their construction project. They had to BY LAW find someone to store any coral over a certain size and then BY LAW those corals were to be put back after the construction was over. Many of these corals found their way into Eric's possession.

Not only that, he stored them in a facility that also housed Pacific corals and possible contamination made the corals (that never should have been in his hands in the first place) unusable for re-stocking the sanctuary.