[cUddlefish]

Of all the things to be nauseous about I would think that posts on a website discussing pros and cons of an industry leader (at least in the past) and his actions regarding an event would not rank very high. I did experience nausea last week when a flu bug was going around at work thoug.

The accusations leveled against others here early in the thread stated things like "If you can't provide documentation" or "If you won't identify who told you then you cannot speak."

May I use the same logic?

If you have documentation but won't show it, If you refuse to address what those in the industry question, If you state that all of the facts are not known but will not provide them, may I quote those who believe in you and demand (no I'm not that rabid) request that you provide the information or at least explain?

EB, I question you. Like the root of the word question I quest (seek) for the truth of the matter. Anyone can call me a witch for seeking that and great scientists such as Galileo were in fact called witches for disagreeing with the "truth" as dictated by the ruling "authority" of the day. I think it is the high road for me (thanks to my father) to question those who lead when I do not understand a perceived problem or want to know more about what happened. On this high road that we are on, I'd like there to be a plateau where the questions are asked and are answered. I have not yet found this plateau.

To answer Frogbone:
Has anything been accomplished....in this thread?
Yes. Some great things have been accomplished.

This whole things is spinning around in a circle and isn't going anywhere...
A centrifuge spins in a circle too. Do you know what a centrifuge does? Scientists do. Oh, crazy people in Iran do too. I'm not saying scientists are crazy people.

In my opinion this thread is.....a platform for a onesided agenda.
Yes it is but the agenda is not to find a witch. It is to get a complete story. Remember the original post asks for answers.

Don't you people have anything better to do ?
Other people might have higher priorities like firefighters care more about fighting fires and doctors care more about treating human woes. As a reefkeeper, I am naturally more concerned about those who work with corals. I do not hold it against you in any way if you are not bothered by the apparent documented mishandling of endangered corals. In your own hobbies and interests you have better things to do and I understand that. There is even more documentation but it is currently unavailable in another person's possesion.


Personally, I would feel obligated to answer for any slight either real or perceived. That's just how I was raised though.

Patrick - even the president of the United States has to answer for slights real and imagined.