Bring it on Shemp!-Title originally by MDP

Steven Pro · #1 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 02:44 AM

I have done nothing nor said anything that I am ashamed of. But you Michael, you are quite simply the most disgusting excuse for a human being I have ever been unfortunate enough to meet. You made me an offer to come here and moderate a forum. I turned you down. In that offer, you slandered my friends and I let them know. That's it. Nothing more complicated than that. When I die, if my tombstone reads, "Devoted husband, loving father, and loyal friend" I will be happy.

As for MACNA, you have a lot of nerve calling others greedy. You, Aquacraft, Patrick, and RAG have done nothing but try to extort free stuff out of us. You both repeatedly lied about what past shows gave you and what you did for them. You made it quite clear to me that Aquacraft would only be an exhibitor if you were also made a speaker. You have behaved exceptionally greedy all along and when you don't get your way, you attempt to slander people as you have done here. But, I will stack up my name and reputation against yours any day of the week.

Now, go ahead and delete this post and ban me so you can get back to using this message board as your own personal propaganda platform.

sihaya · #2 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Pro

I have done nothing nor said anything that I am ashamed of. But you Michael, you are quite simply the most disgusting excuse for a human being I have ever been unfortunate enough to meet.

Holy sweet potatoes... I guess I should be flattered that you only called me a "horrible person." lol

RAG- I haven't been on this forum long, and I don't know if you ban people for this, but I don't think you should ban Steven (though, granted, I don't know about any of this stuff that you guys are referring to about MACNA issues). But I've met Steven, been at meetings with him, hung out with him, etc.... and despite how he's been on forums lately, I really do think he is a good guy. Trust me, he probably just needs a little Japanese sake right about now...

MDPinUSA · #3 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 03:01 AM

Shemp, I do not have the power to ban anyone. -- Your last posts appears to be an attempt to have this thread locked or deleted.

If you with to approach me with your hostility, we can start a very special thread in the RAG Flame Forum.

I detest slander. I only speak and/or write the truth. I do not reply with emotion.

The greatest concern I have is for our industry and the captive pets associated with it.

Your strong words exhibit a high level of frustration. Remember, I have seen your presentations. I have talked with you. As I have seen others presentations.

There is more to being a tadpole in a few drops of water. When behavior is exhibited that exudes greed... when presentations are made that leave more questions than answers... when information is offered that is at best incomplete... someone has to attempt to make things right.

I can provide several examples of 1/2 baked info presented by the stooges.

The world does not revolve around a local aquarium service/maintenance company... public speakers that live for the glory of shaking hands with a dozen or so aquarium hobbyists.

None of you guys have invented or produced anything. The real industry leaders are those that put their heart and souls into investing years to decades of time, untold sleepless nights and most to all of their resources.... in an effort to make available items that benefit others.

This thread is about Eric and any possible illegal activity.

I have no problem opening a new thread in the Flame Forum. You can say what you like. I can say what I like. Others can say what they like. -- No doubt it will provide a lot of useable material for future comedy routines.

MDPinUSA · #4 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 03:13 AM

OK, Shemp.... you made some hostle, vulgar and offensive words (non RAG behavior) in the Bonerman thread.

"... Michael, you are quite simply the most disgusting excuse for a human being I have ever been unfortunate enough to meet."

"As for MACNA, you have a lot of nerve calling others greedy. You, Aquacraft, Patrick, and RAG have done nothing but try to extort free stuff out of us. You both repeatedly lied about what past shows gave you and what you did for them".

Those are your words. We all have a different prespective on things. However, I ask that you do not drag RAG, me or anyone else into your personal hell.

The ball is in your court.

MDP

olsaltybastard · #5 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 05:20 AM

Patrick (or any other moderator),

This thread now looks as if it has been started by SP and it was started by MDP. If I wasn't stripped of moderator status, I would fix it but I can't. Then you can delete this post as I don't have anything to add.

sihaya · #6 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by olsaltybastard

Patrick (or any other moderator),

This thread now looks as if it has been started by SP and it was started by MDP. If I wasn't stripped of moderator status, I would fix it but I can't. Then you can delete this post as I don't have anything to add.

Agreed... I don't like the way this was set up. It's a little deceiving... and I wouldn't have come in here to post otherwise. Believe it or not, I don't actually like flame wars.

**Paramecium** · #7 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 05:41 AM

True, it looks that way, but that is how the software works with posts indexed by time in the database. However, I do think it is rather appropriate, as Shemp did chronologically post this first!

**cUddlefish** · #8 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 06:53 AM

I would hope those words were regretted. I would not say such things. I am hurt by RAG being called a propaganda platform. Well this platform is elevated above the muck thrown at it and I for one will not stoop so low except to say the following.

I have NEVER told someone I argued with that they were a disgusting excuse for a human being. I never will. Instead of stacking my reputation I am more concerned about respecting others. When I do this, my reputation takes care of itself. Over the years, people have come and gone. Find a member current or past with a few posts that would state I have acted in the manner stated above. I am a moderator here and so I consider myself lumped in whether you meant to or not.

While we're discussing tombstones, I hope mine says "Integrity, Intelligent, and loved by his family."

**ReefSilly** · #9 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 04:47 PM

I'm a moderator as well and your attack against this board (me) and MDP is just plain disgusting!
I have read all your post in the past and presence and have always thought you to be well spoken and polite ( even if you didn't agree ).
I am a factual person; I believe in knowing all the facts before I place judgement on any "one" or thing.

The fact is "you Steve Pro" have disgusted me!!!

**JTMAC** · #10 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 05:14 PM

I agree with my other Moderators here. SP I had great respect for you till reading everyone of these posts from all sides of the issue, now I don't see where you deserve your respect. Your personal and uncivil attacks is something a child would do when they don't get there way. It was very unprofessional and childish and your shots at RAG and its moderators was uncalled for. I was planning on going to MACNA this year but I will save my HARD earned money and spend it else where, other then put it in your pocket.

And another thing, I was a member of RC for a month or so a few years ago and was treated like crap, not to mention all the con flicking advice I got. I was new at the time and all it did was confuse me. I also had someone tell me to give up and find another hobby. After that I found RAG and was welcomed here with open arms and great advice. I don't care what the numbers are out there say RAG has the most friendly members around. The only time you seem to pop in here is when you need to plug MACNA.

HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES????