Well yesterday i finished of mixing my first saltwater tank of water with my first bag of... Instant Ocean. Anyway if i would like to use the one that is mentioned in Dr. Ron article i wouldn't find it here. Here I only found 3 brands an IO was the best of them.
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My chemistry buddy read the article from Dr. Ron and was complimentary of his scientific methods. He indicated that the real question is that of accumulated heavy metals, and as the tests suggest, the two salts listed may very well indeed reduce the accumulation over time.
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I do trust in opinion of Dr. Ron but... I'm afraid that i believe too in your experience and Reeflady's, and all of the guys that are members of RAG and some other forums too.
It can be so hard to get the specific salt mentioned in the article, even instant ocean cost me about 30dls the bag for 50 gal (if my memory works fine ) and as i see the circumstances, and the lot of years of a lot of people experiences i think i can go fine with IO.
It's not easy to have a difficult market in mexico and it's harder when the US dL comes up beside the peso, i think IO is fine under my circumstances.
Hasta Luego!!!
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"We all know, of course, that compared with man, the insect does not display what we could describe as intelligence.
But why should we feel proud about that? Where there is no intelligence, there may be no stupidity."
I read the article as well. As far as I'm concerned, it's just another play in ithe game of salt "debate". Since I'm not breeding urchins, (or anything else for that matter), I don't think it's all that significant. No point in jumping on the bandwagon just yet. Sometime in the next 90 days, someone will put out an article with tests that call this article into question. Just my 2 cents worth...
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The testing by Ron in all honesty were bunk. They were done with omly one possible conclution. Heavy metals in the embroyes, yet they were not even tested for this concintration. The 2 perfered salts that came out of the studies glowing were in facts salts that were designed for for the propagation of larvae. Ie. they were designed for the shrimp breeding hatcheries and for medical testing using larval reproduction. This would make the experiment totally Bias.
The fact on how the embroyes died was not even explored. In a recent studies done on the reprodution of other species in a lab enviroment by the NOAA they used IO and found that they had a total failure of reproduction. In further studies to find out why the found the following:
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We use only glass columns and precleaned support materials, as well as redistilled solvents free of contamination (GC grade). As such, we felt that our extraction methodology simply could not account for up to 10-20 mg of extracted DEHP from just 15 L. of culture. this necessitated a search for the source of DEHP. We feel certain that we have identified the major source for this contaminant and determined it as the artificial seawater (Instant Ocean) used in preparing the culture medium. It is likely that the process used in making or packaging Instant Ocean uses many plastic components, which in turn could provide the source of the phthalate ester.
Or in other words certain properties of the bagging material was found not to be conducive to the reproduction of the larvae. Simply conclustion. The salt they used was not the right one for the experiments they choice to do, say applies to Rons study.
The salt testing was not done by Ron. It was done a few years back by others.
Using different salts does not really solve the problem of heavy metal build up in our tanks. If you use additives or comercially prepared foods you are right back to square 1. The solution we have to find (and it is staring us right in our face) is how to remove these metals once they have entered the system. Remember even collected NSW has ammounts of metals in them.
The energy put towards the problem should be directed towards what the process is to remove them. It happens everyday in the rest of the ocean and is being used by many agencies and factions to help with the detoxifing of polluted bays and rivers.
Why is ASW once it has been in the tank not contain the same metals that were tested on freshly made ASW. Simple answer: bacterial action, just as it is in the ocean and all waterways. So we know have a solution on how to bind the metals, now what is the solutions to remove the bacteria????
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