Ich (Cryptocaryon Irritans) Treatment - Page 6

tim millar · #51 (**permalink**) 02-13-2006, 02:31 AM

the best option speaking from my limited experience is to quarantine the little guy if possible then use one of the following two treatments (which according to most sources are the best). there is the hypo-salinity treatment which basicly is dropping the SG down progressively over say 2 weeks too about 1.012 - 1.010 then raising it progressively. personally i have never tried it but i have read many people have and its brilliant. second is treating with copper (but as you mentioned you cant due to invertes) there are the options also in regards to ich solutions however i have tried myself everything under the sun with no glory.

i would suggest monitoring it say over 3 days if possible in quarantine, if the powder is swimming around, eating and acting fairly normal with some white spot leave her/him alone! they probly will be just fine, if however they start scratching constantly.. like they simply lie around hardly no movement then they scratch! or if they start not eating and are not energetic need to pick an option and do it but unless they are literally covered in ich dont rush it and dont panic too much

**DaveK** · #52 (**permalink**) 02-13-2006, 03:16 AM

Welcome to RAG!

I have merged the "powder blue tang has ich. what can i do" and "i have ich!!" and "longnose hawkfish and cleaner shrimp" to our main sticky thread on this disease. I have also deleted other duplicate messages.

klc317 and tim millar covered most of the basic information. See the rest of the thread for additional thoughts.

Reefer1251 · #53 (**permalink**) 02-15-2006, 02:31 AM

Ok, I just got this Flame Angel a few days ago and today i noticed a little bit of ich on it's tail but just a few hours later it's now spread everywhere on the angel's body. Is rapidily spreading ich normal. If it helps, I just treated the whole tank with a reef safe liquid ich treatment.

davidh202 · #54 (**permalink**) 02-15-2006, 03:02 AM

Ok, sorry for your problem, but your assignment for tonight is to write 100 times. I will always quaranteen new fish and never use "reef safe medications" in my display tank.

Reefer1251 · #55 (**permalink**) 02-15-2006, 03:04 AM

um.. what's the problem with reef safe meds? If they're are reef safe, they wouldn't cause harm. Plus, I wanted to med the whole tank because if the Angel has it at such a rapid rate, i want it to go away completely and not get other fish.

davidh202 · #56 (**permalink**) 02-15-2006, 03:20 AM

The problem is that no meds a truely "reef safe" despite the claims. They may help your fish at the risk of harming other life to one degree or another. do a search on this topic and youll see all the experts on RAG stress this point very
strongly as well as the need for qt'ing new additions! Didn't mean to sound facitious and hope all pull through ok.

**DaveK** · #57 (**permalink**) 02-15-2006, 06:09 AM

I have merged the "Flame Angel with Ich" thread with our ongoing sticky tread on this disease.

**DaveK** · #58 (**permalink**) 02-15-2006, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reefer1251

um.. what's the problem with reef safe meds? ....

That's the entire problem, to kill the paracites, the medication has to be rather stong to be effective.

So, to be "reef safe" it either has to be ineffective, so it will not kill anything, or it's got to kill other stuff like pods, bacteria, and so on.

Despite what that label says, I don't consider any medication "reef safe". I know of too many cases where the disease isn't cured and/or the med killed other stuff in the tank.

A note on your original post. If you saw the disease after only 3 days, the fish likely had the disease to start with. You just didn't see it yet because the paracites were not yet large enough to easily see. The only get large when they are ready to drop off and reproduce.

davidh202 · #59 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 02:05 AM

I think there is an issue in regards to garlic that needs to be cleared up.
Garlic may possibly help build up a fishes immune system, and it may not.
It does not cure Ich. A recession of Ich while using garlic is most likely purely coincidental. Garlic is intended to be used to stimulate a fishes appetite and the labels on the commercial products say so. In combination with proper diet, which it (garlic) enhances, and the use of vitamin suppliments the fish stand a much better chance of surviving a bout of Ich if it is being treated correctly.

goodblasson · #60 (**permalink**) 03-20-2006, 07:55 AM

My regal angel has ich, but I cant catch him in my heavly populated reeftank. The regal is about 6 inches long so he is pretty big. Has anyone had any effective luck using a trap of some sort. I have a QT but again cant catch him. When the lights are off he stays behind the rockwork. In the past most of my fish would stay infront of the rockwork at night which easily allowed me to net them. Any advice?