Ich (Cryptocaryon Irritans) Treatment - Page 9

ChuckG · #81 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 02:46 AM

If you go with garlic, get a pure garlic extract from a health food store. I don't believe this will actually do anything for the ich itself but it does entice the fish to eat if they have stopped eating. Soak your foods in some of the tank water with a few drops of the garlic extract and then add one or two drops into the tank just before you feed.

**DaveK** · #82 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 09:24 PM

I have merged the thread "my-fish-has-ich-but-fine-before" into the general thread we have on treating ich(cryptocaryon irritans).

You should find all the information you could possibly want on treatment of the disease here.

nemeth27 · #83 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 04:00 PM

I tried so hard to not get it, but must of been in the live sand I got from two LFS in my area!! I never seen it spread so fast. I'm going to try the hyposalinity treatment, but I have some questions.

1. Since there will no longer be fish in my main tank, do I need to feed my corals/inverts/detrievoers anything? If so should I just put in so flake food 1-2 time a week?

2. With the fish being out for roughly 1 1/2 months when I put them back in do I need to treat it as if I was putting fish in for the first time? Meaing will I have to put in only 1-2 fish per week? Doesn't the benifical bacteria decrease since there will be no need for all of it with less waste to deal with? I just don't want to do all this work, just to lose them to an ammonia spike when I put them back in.

I have 2 True Clowns, 1 Coral Beauty, 1 Sixline, 1 Watchman Goby (Do you think a 10gal will be okay for a hospital tank?)

Thanks and wish me luck!

reeffish · #84 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 04:19 PM

A couple of questions:

What size tank is your display and how long has it been set up? Providing that there is enough space for you fish listed and the tank has already matured I say:

1.You can feed them very little (if you want). Most inverts do fine foraging on their own. BTW, inverts don't do so well with hypo-salinity. This should be done in a QT tank.

2. No. If you have other inverts in the tank they will produce enough waste to keep bacteria alive, especially if you feed them once a week. If you want, to be sure you could put half the fish in, wait a few days, then add the other half. But I would add them all.

10 gal would be ok, for the fish listed, but a 20 would even be better. Keep an eye on the ammonia, nitrite levels and preform water changes as needed.

Good luck.

nemeth27 · #85 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 05:32 PM

Thanks! The tank has been up in my home since September of last year, but it was up at my friends for well over 2 years before that. The display is 29gal with a 15gal sump/ref. The sticky thread on Ich was great, so I know that inverts don't well in Hypo-Salinity, so I am setting up a QT tank.

The only thing that's worries me is that I don't have anything to bring over bacteria into the QT tank. So I guess I will have to keep a real close eye on the Ammonia/Nitrite levels. Would bringing over LR rubble help at all? I have a sponge on my overflow, but I just washed it out on Friday (I didn't want to have a nitrate factory). Any suggestions?

**DaveK** · #86 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 09:15 PM

I have merged the "I got Ich!!" with the "Ich Treatment" thread.

**DaveK** · #87 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemeth27

...The only thing that's worries me is that I don't have anything to bring over bacteria into the QT tank. So I guess I will have to keep a real close eye on the Ammonia/Nitrite levels. Would bringing over LR rubble help at all? ... Any suggestions?

Yes, you can bring over LR from your main tank. Just make sure it's rock that has little growing on it, because hyposalinity will kill many inverts. This can serve as a bacteria base. It would be a good idea to also add a sponge filter or two, so bacteria have a place to grow that is not dependent on LR.

If you find the hyposalinity treatment doesn't work, and you want to use something else, you must remove the live rock.

In a QT tank, you keep ammonia, and nitrite down by doing water changes, if necessary. Also, feed lighting during this time.

davidh202 · #88 (**permalink**) 03-19-2007, 11:38 PM

I just had a thought, are you sure it's ICH?

You said you just added sand to the tank! Many fish have a Mucous coating and you may just be seeing some fine sand particles that have stuck to the fish.My Orchid Dottybacks get slimed with all kinds ok of junk on them from diving in and out of the rocks all the time.

Another way to keep amonia and nitrates down in the Qt is to siphon out any remaining food that falls to the bottom uneaten, and fish poop.A Turkey baster is good to use.
Be sure to put a couple of small pieces of pvc (elbows are good), to give the fish hiding and sleeping spots.Good luck.

nemeth27 · #89 (**permalink**) 03-20-2007, 01:56 PM

I'm pretty sure it's Ich. I added the sand to my Refugium and there really wasn't a sand storm in there. I'm going to be transfering the fish over tonight. Really not looking forward to catching (trying to catch) my 6-line. I'm probabaly going to have to dismantal have the tank.

Well, I'll let everyone know how it goes!

giambi4343 · #90 (**permalink**) 03-31-2007, 06:02 AM

my tank is a mess rite now! half of my fish have ich, and the others dont! i dont understand how half wont have it and some others wont. when my tank first started off, i had a gold stripe marron clown. well thought he was doing good at first but the my powder blue tang started a whole ich epidemic(was screwed over by my lfs) and he ended up dieing.so i started from scratch. then aout 3 months later i got a hybrid maroon clown, a beauty. he ate and seemed very healthy. then he got ich while none of my other tank mate had it. well, he died. then a few months after that i thought i might not have luck with maroons, so i went to a clarkis. he was fine for a few months, ich free but he was too aggressive with my other fish and kept nipping at them. so i sent him back. then i moved on with differnt fish. i now have a pearlscale, auriga butterfly, flame angel, dartfish ,cardinal, royal gramma, goby with shrimp buddy, bargoby, 2 cleaner shrimp, snials and a few hermits. the pearlscale, auriga butterfly, flame angel, and the royal gramma got ich. they ate fine and i didnt treat them because the ich would come and go. i didnt do anymore clowns until i got a bta. so i did and i got a percula with it. well it got ich the day i put it in the tank. he was fine at the lfs. but then once i acclimated him, drip method for an hour he got ich. well it is a week later and he still has ich. so i am treating those fish now. they dont seem to be better. and i think the clown may be on his way out tonight. all of my fish with the ich eat fine and do not harrass eachother. i could even keep my butterflys with corals(dont ask me how that worked out, i have weird ones). what i dont understand is, is that why does a clown that i buy always get ich and why dont my other fish get ich also! i dont get it. new fish that i have been adding have been getting ich. i do water changes and the water is fine. could somebody help me out with my problem?