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Old 05-21-2002, 11:12 PM
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Red Slime - Cyano Causes and Cures

I noticed that on one of my live rocks there is what seems to look like cyno, it is a dark red color with some bubbles in it, the only place that i have it is on one rock, it looks like its fuzy and it looks like there is some hair algea as well on this small patch on the rock. i was thinking of taking this rock and chucking it, but when i try to do that i noticed that my feather duster was somehow atached to the rock, i tried to detach the featherduster, but it seemed like i was ripping some sort of coocun with a worm inside?? I dont know if this is part of the feather duster, but it freaked me out!! So i decided to put the rock back in the water.

What should i do???? I dont want this cyno crap to take over my tank!
Is it to late?
What can i use to kill cyno with?
Should i take the rock out and try to peel this wierd worm of the rock? or should i sacrifice the feather duster along with the rock, and if i do that will that eliminate the cyno from growing?

And my last question is does cyno kill fish?

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Old 05-22-2002, 12:03 AM
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Hey Perc

Cyano wont kill fish. Its ugly, and can be a pain, but other than that, its pretty harmless. If left unchecked it can overgrow sessile inverts, but if you syphon it off (you do have a turkey baster, dont you?), and watch your feedings, and skimm you can knock it out. There are products out there to kill cyano, and they work. The problem is they are antibiotics, and like all antibiotics, bacteria can come back tougher, ao then you have super cyano. Your best bet is syphoning and skimming. You can also drip kalk to expedite the process too if you like.

Just curious, what is your make up water source, and what is your phosphate level?

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Percfan, There are many, many threads here about the problems and fixes of Cyano. We have all had the issue at one time or another to soem extent.
The number one cause of Cyano is excess nutrients! Work on cleaning up the water by increasing circulation by the addition of strategically placed powerheads and work on increasing the efficiency of your skimmer or purchase a more appropriatly sized skimmer. Increasing circulation to and from your sump (if you have one) will also help. More waterchanges and reduced feedings will also help.
Circulate and clean!
Voila! no cyano.
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Work on cleaning up the water by increasing circulation by the addition of strategically placed powerheads and work on increasing the efficiency of your skimmer or purchase a more appropriatly sized skimmer. Increasing circulation to and from your sump (if you have one) will also help. More waterchanges and reduced feedings will also help.
Circulate and clean!
Voila! no cyano.
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I have three powerheads. What do you mean about strtegically placing the powerheads?
And as for a skimmer i just replaced a Prizm protien skimmer with a CPR BAK PAK IIR, and it's on 24/7, it seems like the areas were there is cyno are on the bottom rocks were its almost imposible to get circulaton thru there.

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You might also want to run carbon too. I know some people will argue this point, but personally I run it 24/7/365 while changing it just when I see the water color start to change. Some say it takes a lot of good things from the water, but check out my tank and see for yourself. I just feed the fish and let the fish poo feed the corals, but then again I have a larger than normal fish population. I have never once added invert food!
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What do you mean about strtegically placing the powerheads?
Try to remove dead zones.
What size tank is this?
What do you feed the tank?
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Try to remove dead zones.
What size tank is this?
What do you feed the tank?
29g tank
I feed formula one, frozen brine, frozen mysis, every other day!
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Just seen that no one mentioned anything about your poor feater duster!!! That worm thing you talking about is the feater duster, they are worms . They do secete a glue that sticks them in position. You should be able to pull it off if you wanted too..... just do it carefully. I agree with the others in the cyno problem.

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Just seen that no one mentioned anything about your poor feater duster!!! That worm thing you talking about is the feater duster, they are worms . They do secete a glue that sticks them in position. You should be able to pull it off if you wanted too..... just do it carefully.
Yeah, the reason no one mentioned it was because it was brought into the conversation with the thinking that it would have to be removed to be able to scrub the rock free of cyano. There is no need to remove it because scrubbing the rock will only remove the cyano for a day or two. Then it will grow back. You have to get to the cause of the problem, not cure the symptoms. Leave the duster and rock.
A CPR Backpack, should do the job nicely on this tank.
Perhaps your make up water is the problem here or you are just feeding too much at one time. I would try backing off on the feedings a bit and do a decent water change with the hopes of cleaning up the system. Chemical additives to remove Cyano will only remove them for the short term. They will grow back.
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My water parameters are:

Amonnia 0
NitrITE 0
NitrATE .05
Ph 8.2
Calcium 320-380
Phosphate 0
Salinity 0.23-0.24

I use r/o water from the grocery store for make up water.
I feed every other day.
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